OMG This is soooo true. It is a scam in which almost everyone loses money. So this got more fishy. Continue reading 9 people found this review helpful Helpful Share 5.0 He mentioned the company would pay for license and classes and would like for me to start working part time for 5 hrs a week these next few months. The guy on the phone was super nice and seemed waaaaay too eager for me to come in, especially since I told him up front that I had no financing background. It was a group interview. They are in the business of selling real estate. I emailed them and set up an interview for tomorrow. 4.) She told me, I dont think of it as sales, but rather as helping people; dont you want to help people? I replied, yeah, by repairing computers, not by getting them to give me their money and expect unrealistic returns on their mutual funds! Well, dont you want to see what sort of assets you currently stand to retire with? No, came my reply, do you have a need for an IT guy or not? We need people from all walks of life! she reminded me. I told them that i was skeptical and would want to research before committing to any policy or any opportunity. He specifically mentioned that he was looking for a qualified office manager and that my resume looked like I was very well qualified. I was making nothing doing work that was not only boring, but physically painful. I just got off the phone with some one by the name of Kelly Marie from prime America she was very anxious to have me come in for an interview. I dont. Dont listen to the nonsense check out Primerica yourself! I was looking for work on Craigslist and came across a post for motivated self-starters needed for an up-and-coming financial firm. Does How the Company Works Show a Pyramid Scheme? Known as a co-founder of EarthLink, the internet service provider that . Thank you to all those who contributed to this thread and I wish you all the best of luck in your job search! The 'Private Investment Club' conference had everything: a host demanding people pay for 'VIP' access, weird pyramid diagrams, "plerking," and a celebrity guest who clearly didn't read the memo. Is Primerica a scam? : PersonalFinanceCanada - reddit I just went to a meeting last night, everything previously written by past people are true. Down below is a tiny non-referent asterisk that tells us to check their claims against the DISCLAIMER portion of the book. What a joke. She the. If I had a little more information I wouldve researched the company, but there wasnt even a specific name, Im not sure why I didnt consider it a scam at the time. I just hope it was a legit employee just trying to recruit more people. She also told me she was just leaving church lol. She sits me down and asked If I knew who was PRIMERICA told her NO, then she told me its company who works with mutual company that sale insurances, help middle class people get out of debits teach them how to invest ect, The red flags popped up when she said they will pay for the classes so I can get the Life Insurance, said each class is $500 dollars you will only pay $140 that for background check, finger prints and utilities. Personally I have been in the company for 4 months and I have seen what a scam it is. after hearing these non descriptive answers at this point Im like yea, ok very high chance I will not be showing up. You would think that this would be BEYOND retirement for people who are setting themselves up with residual income. Is Primerica A Pyramid Scheme Or A Scam? (Primerica Review) I knew immediately this was a scam of some sort. Anyway sort of brings out the negatives in the post. THIS IS A BUSINESS, and youre too lazy to work for yourself or want to educate people on their finances. http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2015/03/multi-level-marketing-is-not-a-business-its-a-pyramid-scheme/. I just advise that people dont get that education from Primerica or any other MLM. I express admiration and order another coke and a sandwich. Never realized Primerica was an MLM until reading what Tracy has posted. I got a phone call from someone telling me the company was called PFF. Action Affect! When called at home, I got a vague assurance that I would be a good fit. I decided to research the company ahead of time and it lead me here Might i ask the opinion of those whom have dealt with this company: my experience thus far, sans interview sounds eerily similar to some other accounts Ive read here. They are legal, but unethical. what kind of car would you like to buy? I have an interview with them today which after reading these helpful post I will definitely not be going. Its just that the whole experience left me somewhat unnerved. He not once mentioned how or why he chose to contact me. Thats an MLM just you stay broke. I was approached last night while grocery shopping at Star market. lets protest guys!!!! Her last attempt was to try and sell the financial services to me. At worst it means you have a poor product or poor reputation which is most likely deserved. I dont see any suggestion there that newbies may expect six-figure earnings? I felt paralyzed with indecisiveness. Because most likely many of you canceled your appointments, and during that appointment time ended up doing something unproductive anyway, like watching TV, or browsing the Internet. Now, the warning flags were popping up like crazy! Thats the nature of working in several industries overseen by a regulatory body. Cancelled my appointment with them. He kept repeating that they are teaching people how to use their money, but without really saying anything else. She gives me, the son she never had, an enthusiastic hug and promises to call me tomorrow with all of the details. I thought oh boy! So an agent sells a property, and the agent gets a commission and the office/team gets a commission. Like many before me, I too received a call by a young woman, Jasmine, stating that my number was forwarded as someone ambitious and hard working, seeking employment. Not that it matters as essentially every three years the sales force has been completely replaced, except for the 2% who got in early years ago. So glad I did! They are a scam! My angel on the shoulder came in the form of a call for a contract position at a big investment bank. My friend joined this because the company we work at now isnt good and this company made her feel good about herself. Well im not going to my interview today. I just got a call tonight from someone who started to ask me about my resume. I asked what does this have anything to do with life insurance, or a job? So, I got up & left to find out who that company was. She told us that most people in the company are able to make 6-figure incomes, but thats a good thing, since they help people get out of debt and become financially independent. Shame. She says its just a coat she found around the house she dont work there. Primerica Financial Services: The Fake Job Interview Rome wasnt built in a day. When it was over I again thought, ok so now Ill get the interview. We set up the interview within a week and Ive never had someone more eager and desperate to hire me. The insurance of Primerica is a company that is only said to scam people, using the method of false information, I have been 7 years with this life insurance and I am trying to cancel it because every year they are raising the price a lot, and tried to cancel and they are collecting my savings that I have in this policy, Last year I sent my cancellation letter and they do not want to cancel my insurance, I will have to ask for help from the government of *******. I tell her my mom had me when she was 18 and I grew up poor. Shove that $99 fee up your keester. So I got a call from the so called vice president of the company, mentioned they were seeking to hire many individuals due to expansion. He told me to have a seat and that there was going to be a presentation. I know of plenty of people who need a job but now I dont think this company is legitimate despite the nice phone call. I asked what company is this and how did they get my number considering the fact I havent applied for any job positions in almost a year. They make any failures out to be lazy and incompetent, unfortunately the failure rate is incredibly high. One from a news channel and some other random one. Business opportunities are not for the weak at heart. Some people are so desperate for money that they are blind to this. Most all businesses fail, traditional or mlm. Now, of course, I see it through different eyes, more objective and analytical. Here are just some of the things that threw me off, he contacted me on Facebook, very informal. Finally they called me in the most boring, plain, unprofessional office ever. Then why was he so eager to get ahold of my stack of resumes, leads I had paid for?? Its not a business. One last question: Might you also direct me to the financial services provider anxious to hire a gray-headed, chicken-necked, bifocaled old cronewhose work ethic and ethics generally are strong?! If someone approaches you with any opportunity of any sort, and they are not willing to divulge the name of the company, then run as fast as you can! I told him i was not looking to sell door to door or force anyone to sign up for gimmicks, which He reassured me that i would not be doing. Well he cleared my somewhat strict prerequisites and I accepted his request. As I told others about my upcoming interview and was asked things like with who, I felt like an idiot realizing I wasnt given any basic details. On top of that, the lady who talked to me one on one after the presentation kept trying to get me to give her more peoples names and numbers and I told her first, I didnt know anyone. The man told me he was a head hunter and had seen my resume on Career Builders. He has no right to call people that didnt go to college dumb. Even if this is a legit company, the financing industry was never my thing. I figured that was the end of it, but she kept calling for a week after. It occurs to me that if a person would want to try this kind of sales, then it would be just as easy to sign up with a major insurer such as Woodmen or Northwestern Mutual, NY Life, etc. I emailed Mark back asking if 10 am worked for him. I would not call it a scam, but they are overly persistent and do not take a hint unless you are forceful. And he made it seem like the right thing to do. There was two guys Anthony and some dude who looked like he snorted before he came in. Cant there be commission only jobs? Because there is recruiting with so many levels, the distributor who sells the products receives much less money than if he or she sold similar services through a traditional insurance agency or investment company. Unfortunately, almost everyone in pyramid schemes lose money. PLEASE DONT GO. Was very surprised to receive a phone call, as never applied for anything, still cant understand how did they get my phone number . Anther warning flag went up. I assume there was a bathroom off the other direction, but I never saw it. I must have looked confused because he said as he dialed, people are more likely to answer an unknown number than if they see the name. I was shocked I thought we werent doing anything wrong? The conversation, again, was mostly about me, prompting me to sell myself as someone who should work there. Like I said, I own my own business and am looking for some sharp people to add to my team here. I want to shake my head at me too. They use the classic BAIT and SWITCH for everything they do. So this person who called said a headhunter has forwarded my resume to him and ask if I would like to work for them. My friend lost his job and this what fell into his lap. She assured me, as the regional vice president of the Dayton area, she is looking to agressively expand her reach and will be opening up 5 new offices in the next 2 years, so she needs all the help she can get. The grand kicker was the way the regional representative (and the speakers) used THE BIBLE to justify us serving a great cause? For the second time since I had gotten here, a warning flag went up. Contrary to rumors out there, Primerica is not a pyramid scheme. Im 21 and just recieved a called from them while at work stepping away from the front desk i answered to a guy who gave brief detail about everything your reading above smh not going! During that same time period, 243,167 of their licensed reps also left the opportunity. And I was like a job description of what Ill be doing and how the company works. She was upset and wanted to know who told me those rumors. It was an apartment looking complex with no name, nothing. Still no mention of the type of work. When I walked in Spanish music was playing and the office was empty even in the so called Vice Presidents office its was empty and had fake plaques and stuff every where. I told her I was wary of making any appointments because I had no information on the company. Only said that his company was part of the stock exchange and made more money than Yahoo -_-. I told them that Id have to think things over, though it took a couple of times for me to say that so that they understood. At that point, I hung up and laughed. Suddenly a laminated informational booklet comes out for PRIMERICA. My daughter was contacted by Primerica and she told them I was looking for a job. I did find it funny though, because it was clear he was representing an MLM based on the fact that his business cards didnt have an actual company name, used a generic Vistaprint background, and listed him as a Financial Coach or something like that. I left indicating this was not for me, but wasted valuable time for something, from the on-set, which I indicated was not at all of interest, on her pretense it was a support job. But im not stupid so i looked it all up what the job was and where it actually was and this seems to be all true. The VP Mr. He gave his spill bout himself first then went on to explain how things work. If anyone can reply below this with advice Id really appreciate it He also has my first middle and last name, DOB, email and phone number. Sucker Me Not At This Time An office front is an office front, I thought. We are not a scam and there are no fake interviews. They all were wearing suits and carrying black portfolios. I received a call from a woman named Mary stating that someone referred me to her and asked if I was still looking for a job. This deceptive practices should be reported. Thanks for the post. Many new agents are brought into insurance sales through Primerica's recruiting effort. I thought why in the hell would a RVP of a business contact me, someone with no experience or info out there advocating I have any in such a business and/or roles, and on Facebook!? Obviously the other side of this coin is that reps/and recruits dont benefit, and dont find enough value to stay. Everybody is making a cut on the people below them; it goes up to four level. She gave me her spill . BBB Business Profiles generally cover a three-year reporting period. old-fashioned pyramid scheme and the line between the two is blurry at best. My time is precious and sitting down even to waste her time wont be worth it. MLM never has appealed to me. So then i asked him thru Facebook and he said no and now im here and im so glad i am. The problem in this country is the mindset and victim mentality nobody makes people stay small and closed minded! She set up an interview for me tomorrow and told me to dress in business attire. Im so stressed out now because I couldnt come up with a lie to excuse me from that call. So we exchanged numbers and that was that. They are a publicly traded company on the NYSE. As soon as I saw Primerica I KNEW it was a scam. Everything I am reading in these comments sounds almost exactly like my experience with them. If you do find yourself mixed up in something like this, please dont let it effect your perception of yourself. Like Im not with all the talk and I need proof. I reluctantly agreed and was hired I went home that day and looked for primerica on the Internet and at how it is a scam. I first indicated, I was not interested in selling financial products and not sure I wanted to apply. In conclusion I think its awesome that they make 30 million a year off active reps paying fees, from a business standpoint, of course. I received a call on Wednesday from a classmate she just graduater from high school and im still there so she told me that she works for a growing company but she didnt say which company it was she just asked how old i am and if i was looking for a job as almost every high school student i am looking for a job and i have applied in so many places but they havent call me. In this instance, it turns out that I did apply for a job with Primerica back in December (they had a job listing on my grad school career website). I asked what it was and he was kind of vague, but I humored him and said that I would be interested, as I am in the market for a part time job given the added expenses of my fathers death. It was odd that the individual wouldnt tell me what the position was and that it wasnt sales. I had a few drinks the night before. A full 84% left prior to obtaining their insurance license. The answer, I am CERTAIN, is NO! He said either way hed be expecting me tomorrow at 3:30pm. Their 6 digit earners boast is misleading as its a cumulative, not annual figure. After reading a lot of these comments I understand why many people feel Primerica is a scam. I was approached by a Primerica representative at a job fair on a military post on Nov 28. It all seemed a little odd since they are a financial company and nowhere in my background is there anything pertaining to finance. BBB encourages you to check with the appropriate agency to be certain any requirements are currently being met. I texted my friend and asked him what was $99 needed for, and he replied it was for my background check and two tests I would need to take before I got my license. Glad I didnt waste my time. I eventually gave in and asked for her business card, she told me she had left it in her office. They have to recruit their own people. A pyramid scheme does not refer to the layers of management that you see. The scheme is called a "pyramid" because at each level, the number of investors increases. They get lectures about how they can earn as much as 110% depending on production and promotion as Vice President. If you want to sell insurance or investments, do it with a real company, not a scammy MLM. they called me yesterday afternoon while I was at one of my jobs. People do real research before you blow an opportunity and not this Google cap where anyone can post anything on it. Yes, the office/team gets part of every sale because they play a part in every sale. Employers are not evasive about what they need. BBB Business Profiles may not be reproduced for sales or promotional purposes. Overall sounded ok but things started to not add up. Isnt it a blatant cheating? They know what positions they are trying to fill and what each position entices and dont beat about the bush when asked about that. Fact remains if you had joined the Primerica team and never reached any level of success you were probably not even trying and waiting for something to be given to you. DO NOT give them the time of day AT ALL. There are also barriers of entry ex: background check and licensing. I noticed several of the new people in the front row looked very restless, like they just wanted to get out of there. Look this up on Wikipedia, the very unusual and very unique model that Primerica uses. The early investors actually get paid those big. Thanks for all these helpful comments and posts. Thanks for the heads up! Over dinner, I told my husband about the phone call and what I had found online about this Primerica and learned that he, as well, had been lured to their office a few years back, when he was looking for a job and after sitting in their presentation, he realized that it was a pyramid scheme and walked out without looking back. A real boss wouldnt be furious with me for honest fumbling. I think Jorge is actually Donald Trump. But believe me, when youre lacking in confidence any morsel thrown down from the masters table seems like a feast. For 5 years, Primerica has been paid automatically from my bank account. Blah blah blah. You dum assess are just to lazy to change the direction your lives are going so you stay working for toll plazas or write articles like this fat bitch. A couple of days ago, I posted the following on Craigslist: Hello, Ive excellent command of MS-Word, MS-Excel, and MS-PowerPoint. But a million questions arose when hed finished describing what it was he did, as he never quite cut to the chase of what Id be doing for the company. Therefore, before joining Primerica, you might pose and ask yourself if it is a pyramid scheme. Her choice of language, and orientation rather than an interview, and the location of it (nowhere downtown but rather in a rented space in the outskirts I mapped it out) caused me to beg off, using the excuse that the location was too far for me to attend. I knew from the phone call that something was wrong. Thirdly, in a real job I wouldnt be so terrified that the person would think its a scam and I wouldnt care if they came on board or not. I am not against commission based jobs and making money. The other woman never shows up. If your goal is sales, join a traditional company. Since it was scripted, I never got a chance to really speak about what my views are and what I look for in a position as well as my strengths. I got the call from a woman saying she got my rsum from monster. Tony Thanks for your concern. Indeed, I was invited and liked. Are you saying that all the people who commented on this thread that they participated in a fake job interview like this are lying? He went in to the building I was about to go into. Another woman, in her mid to late 20s like me, walked in and was handed the same paperwork I had to fill out. From then he sent us to different people to ask us some questions. I attended a presentation and just decided it wasnt something I really wanted to do. I am suppose to have an interview tomorrow as well. Who invites salesmen to present at a leadership conference anyway? Question you investigate insurance fraud correct? I just had a very recent run-in with a Primerica recruiter. At least this way, I can practice negotiating for a higher pay level, and interviewing in general. (within the next 5 years) If it is such a scam, why is it that people can actually make some extra money once they are trained? Were 30 mins in this interview, hes asked me for $124, 3 people i have to refer who will also pay $124, my credit card info, 25 phone numbers to also call and sell insurance too, and then called my parents for a home meeting. He didnt mention anything about a resume which made me wonder. I received a call today from a lady at Primerica, stating that someone referred me, & she would like for me to come in for an interview on Fridaybut when I asked who the person was that referred me, she couldnt give me a name. Primerica Reviews | What They Won't Tell You - YouTube Never missing a payment! After hanging up with him, I found this wonderfully put together article and took the time to go through most of the comments as well and found pretty much everybody in agreement that this is a scam. What agencies would handle this kind of thing? Were looking for employment & to get taken advantage of. I work full-time and train in martial arts. Once reading all these reviews I called back my recruiter and asked for more details about the interview and he was vague. As a matter of policy, BBB does not endorse any product, service or business. Hopefully she has read all the history on this company and so on. But you can throw away a full barrel of apples because a few are rotten. The so called VP is there and questions were asked and at some point, the so called VP (he looks like James Ingram) said that I need to pay $99 for my financial license to be able to get the job. You will be expected to go out and find new victims to sign up for the scam. How BBB Processes Complaints and Reviews. Duluth, GA 30099-4000 Visit Website Email this Business (770) 381-1000 Primary hours 9:00 AM - 5:00 PM BBB Rating & Accreditation A+ Accredited Since: 1/1/1980 Years in Business: 46 Customer. And Im sure it is. Primerica is regulated by the SEC and FINRA. So the First 20 minutes seemed normal, but then it got suspicious. Were looking for someone to hire and train as a investment advisor for expanding finance department. I received a call from a rep from primerica. So a woman called kim called and set up an interview with me in a city nearby. I hope theu chok on those miions $ they made when we went public . None thats who! Lies and time wasting leading to a quick fumble at your wallet. 1. i dont get paid to recruit people, i COULD get a % of what they CAN make from what their clients get for premiums, EX. Those products should be purchased at companies other than Primerica. All I have to do is clock in whatever hours a week I want and watch thousands of dollars pour in. Basically, i refer 3 people and make $700. I have an interview with them tomorrow. I had to squeeze in questions as he was trying to hang up without providing any information such as what does PFS stand for? Thank you! Thats how I found this site. MLM jobs are not jobs at all. 403bCompare - Mutual Funds offered by Primerica Only two other rooms seemed to be in this building, a walled-off office and a copy room that was more or less a bump off the main hallway. Do you even know why you exist? It was located on the northwest side of Chicago (also where the Primerica location is) in a building that was practically empty and only had a few rooms/offices one the 1st floor and a basement which is where we met and discussed this foolishness. These places and factories will make organic as possible, vegan as possible, human friendly medication. But to shut down a business just because over 100 of you said it was crap and the rest followed after you did your own research. Turns out that of the top 25 life insurance companies out there, Primerica is at number 22, and they have a very small share of the entire life insurance market to begin with, even though they have more agents than every other life insurance combined. We chat like we did before she mentions that her daughter Mariah (not her name, but I want to stress the weird detail that the name WAS a variant of her own). If the job interview is not actually for a job, and is instead for a recruitment scheme, then the person was lied to. I had heard him talk many times about the cars and houses that the top leaders in the company owned, and had asked him when he was going to get the viper posted on his wall. Al? she asked as she reached a chubby, wrinkled hand out to me. I am so glad I found these comments it saved me the time of going to somewhere that was not what it was suppose to be. After reading these comments I can say I will not be showing up Wednesday at 6:15 for my interview. You can get a reasonable life insurance plan as a AAA member and should deal with a real bank or well known investment firm with your money, people! If you look deeper every single business entity can be labeled as a rip off because essentially take peoples money for their own financial gain. So, I was interested and I REALLY loved the couple and was glad to see and hang out with them after so long. 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